I’m stuck somewhere in the middle in all this stuff. Apple invested untold and godly amounts of money to develop the iPhone and the App Store, so it feels like they should be able to set the rules and commission they earn as they see fit. Epic wouldn’t have the option to make their billions on the App Store if Apple didn’t have the successful product they do, so Epic should just pay the commission or tax or whatever they want to call it. Every other storefront, aside from Epic’s massive failure, charges 30%. It’s not an egregious amount, it’s industry standard.
Epic is always welcome to start their own mobile phone business and then charge, or not charge, whatever they see fit. They obviously won’t do that because it’s not as simple as flipping on a light switch. It’s extremely difficult to do so.
On the flip side, smaller developers should be charged less than the 30% (I believe in recent years Apple made this change, charging a smaller fee on the first $1m, but I could be wrong). Many very small, one or two person dev teams, could use that break to make an actual living on the App Store, which leads to better apps in the future.
Visa and Mastercard only take 2-3% commission. 30% is just waay too much. Epic was the reason Apple had to decrease 30% fee to 15% for small developers. Just because you made iPhone doesn’t mean you can become monopolist or use anticompetitive, anti consumer tactics, there are rules and laws of market you should abide by
You’re comparing apples to oranges, no pun intended. Visa and MasterCard charge what they charge because the volume of transactions is much higher than any on the App Store. Apple is not charging some crazy, unheard of amount. Android is 30%, PlayStation, Steam and Xbox are 30%…most anyone who runs a storefront charges 30%.
Imagine EA putting up a link on Sony’s storefront where it redirects you to the EA App so Sony doesn’t take their 30% cut…would that also be ok? For a judge to say it is with Epic and Apple is going to further discourage anyone from investing the money required to be a platform holder, further homogenizing our industry where consoles won’t exist and it’ll all be PCs.
Dangerous move by a judge who has no idea what it takes to bring a platform to market and maintain it over many years.
Only consoles can change 30% commission. Android, iOS, Steam should get 12% commission as Epic proved to be profitable and fair. Don’t defend the monopoly.
Epic has lost billions and billions of dollars with their storefront. Not sure where you’re getting your information. If it wasn’t for Fortnite, the Epic Games Store would already be shut down.
What distinguishes a console app store from a mobile one? Why is one allowed to charge 30% and the other isn’t?
That is called investment. Amazon was also making no money and only invested. Now look where Amazon is. Even at that time there were people just like you who were laughing and clueless. Bezos now laughs at your wallet hahah
I’m stuck somewhere in the middle in all this stuff. Apple invested untold and godly amounts of money to develop the iPhone and the App Store, so it feels like they should be able to set the rules and commission they earn as they see fit. Epic wouldn’t have the option to make their billions on the App Store if Apple didn’t have the successful product they do, so Epic should just pay the commission or tax or whatever they want to call it. Every other storefront, aside from Epic’s massive failure, charges 30%. It’s not an egregious amount, it’s industry standard.
Epic is always welcome to start their own mobile phone business and then charge, or not charge, whatever they see fit. They obviously won’t do that because it’s not as simple as flipping on a light switch. It’s extremely difficult to do so.
On the flip side, smaller developers should be charged less than the 30% (I believe in recent years Apple made this change, charging a smaller fee on the first $1m, but I could be wrong). Many very small, one or two person dev teams, could use that break to make an actual living on the App Store, which leads to better apps in the future.
Visa and Mastercard only take 2-3% commission. 30% is just waay too much. Epic was the reason Apple had to decrease 30% fee to 15% for small developers. Just because you made iPhone doesn’t mean you can become monopolist or use anticompetitive, anti consumer tactics, there are rules and laws of market you should abide by
You’re comparing apples to oranges, no pun intended. Visa and MasterCard charge what they charge because the volume of transactions is much higher than any on the App Store. Apple is not charging some crazy, unheard of amount. Android is 30%, PlayStation, Steam and Xbox are 30%…most anyone who runs a storefront charges 30%.
Imagine EA putting up a link on Sony’s storefront where it redirects you to the EA App so Sony doesn’t take their 30% cut…would that also be ok? For a judge to say it is with Epic and Apple is going to further discourage anyone from investing the money required to be a platform holder, further homogenizing our industry where consoles won’t exist and it’ll all be PCs.
Dangerous move by a judge who has no idea what it takes to bring a platform to market and maintain it over many years.
Only consoles can change 30% commission. Android, iOS, Steam should get 12% commission as Epic proved to be profitable and fair. Don’t defend the monopoly.
Epic has lost billions and billions of dollars with their storefront. Not sure where you’re getting your information. If it wasn’t for Fortnite, the Epic Games Store would already be shut down.
What distinguishes a console app store from a mobile one? Why is one allowed to charge 30% and the other isn’t?
That is called investment. Amazon was also making no money and only invested. Now look where Amazon is. Even at that time there were people just like you who were laughing and clueless. Bezos now laughs at your wallet hahah
Not sure what spurred on the name-calling, but regardless, we’ll agree to disagree and move on.